I think anyone who compares human beings to cows and sheep is a fucking misogynist. And that “speciesm” is just another way of saying “You care too much about human rights. I don’t give a fuck about people, but look at these cute animals! They are FAR more important than your silly desires for equality.”
Pro-life politicians compare people with uteri to brood mares and cows in an attempt to justify their own anti-choice and rape apologists stances. Until that stops happening, you’re gonna have a hard time convincing me that feminists who prioritize humans are “rape apologists”.
ABSOLUTELY disagree. Vegans are not comparing humans to cows (which is not and should not be an insult, as these beings are absolutely wonderful). “Speciesism” is a ways of saying “you prioritize the human rights movement and your own desires over the lives of other beings, while we should be focusing on the rights of ALL living beings, humans and non-human animals combined.”
The majority of pro-life politicians and advocates are not vegan, and are using these silly arguments to back up their ridiculous stance, which has nothing to do with the rights of humans or non-human animals.
Most vegans are also feminist and pro-choice, and actually give a shit about the rights and well-being of ALL living creatures.
As you most likely know, the milk that cows produce are meant for their calves. In order for humans to drink this milk, we deny the calves the right to consume their mother’s milk and take it for ourselves. If the calf is male, he is useless, and will be sent to slaughter in order to produce veal. If the calf is female, she will likely be placed in the same situation as her mother, until she is "spent" after years of giving birth and producing milk and finally killed. Keep in mind that these cows are artificially impregnated in order to keep giving birth, which is sexual assault.
Hi, as someone who’s been raped, id’s as a feminist, and physically cannot be vegan please do yourself a favour and shut the fuck up. Right now.
Not being vegan is in no way comparable to making excuses for rapists and it’s disgusting of you to make that comparison.
I’m all for animal rights, however most animals do not pass needed measures of sentient behaviour and we need to focus on the sentient species first, including humans, and frankly yes, I would like to prioritize the members of my own species(including myself) over other species.
Calling feminists who aren’t vegan (for whatever reason, maybe they can’t AFFORD a vegan lifestyle? Maybe, like me, being Vegan was actually detrimental to their physical health? Did you bother asking or just assume?) ‘rape apologists’ for eating beef or pork or dog or any meat is disgusting.
You can call people out on not fighting for animal rights all you like, but how dare you make that comparison. It is exactly the same as pro lifers comparing abortion to various tragedies in order to win support.
It’s emotional manipulation, it’s disgusting behaviour, it’s a form of propaganda, it’s sexist, homophobic, racist and transphobic by its very nature and it needs to stop.
— Hi, as someone who has also been raped and identifies as a feminist, I continue to stand behind my previous argument that consuming animal products does involve sexual assault/rape and is as important of an issue as human rights.
First of all, don’t say that you are all for animal rights if you consume them. That’s fucked up.
Second, whether an animal passes “needed measures of sentient behaviour” (whatever those may be in your mind) does not determine whether or not they deserve to die for human use. It is irrelevant whether you are able to function in society among human beings or are not even aware of your surroundings; this is NO reason to be objectified, exploited, and consumed for a simple pleasure palette. I would love to know how veganism is “detrimental” to your health, as I am genuinely interested. There are many ways that people can be vegan with extremely low income. Whole foods such as rice, beans, lentils, and vegetables are all you need to stay healthy as a vegan, and both food stamps and dumpster diving can provide these items. Animal flesh and the “whole, healthy” dairy products are typically much more expensive than plant-based whole foods.
Comparing animal rights to human rights, specifically women’s rights, is nothing like the pro-life argument. These animals are alive, sentient, and do not deserve to die simply because you prefer to focus on another fucking cause. BOTH causes are extremely important and fight for the same fucking thing: equality, justice, basic right to life (for the living), non-violence, and a life without being fucking abused.
I recommend reading The Sexual Politics of Meat by Carol J. Adams. It’s educational (Oh my!) and focuses on the intersectionality between consuming and exploiting sentient beings (both human and non-human animals). You likely won’t, as you seem to be pretty ignorant, but I absolutely recommend educating yourself on this matter, as you’re “all for animal rights”.